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Foresters' Arms, Baldwin's Hill, Loughton

The Foresters Arms, Baldwins Hill, Loughton - circa 1894

The Foresters Arms, Baldwins Hill, Loughton - circa 1894

Foresters Arms, Baldwin Hill pre 1910

Foresters Arms, Baldwin Hill pre 1910

Foresters Arms, Baldwin Hill in 2000

Foresters Arms, Baldwin Hill in 2000

All kindly provided by Margaret Wood

Residents at this address

My Essex ancestors were the Grout family of Loughton. As far back as I have been able to go, early to mid 1700, the family were living on Baldwin's Hill in a loppers cottage. This became a beer shop, then grocer and beer shop, and eventually The Foresters Arms, which it remains today.

I understand that my particular branch of the family remained in the pub until the 1920's some time - could even have been later. I believe the Grout family who at one time owned Foresters and Gardeners were reasonably " well off" and owned quite a few cottages in the vicinity of Baldwin's Hill, which they sold. They also held title to some of Epping Forest a large part of which was appropriated by the council - way, way, back.

Another branch of the family had the Gardeners Arms on York Hill. My grandparents Grout had the Anchor Inn and the Kings Head in Guisborough. (N.Yks). My aunt Hampson had the Buck Hotel in Guisborough. Aunt Hampson then had the Old Dog in Preston, Lancs., and the Mount Pleasant, Cocker St/High St Blackpool. Father-in-law Wood had the Crown and Anchor in Redcar North Yorkshire ***

1874/George Grout/Beer Retailer/../../Kelly's

1878/George Grout/Beer Retailer/../../Kelly's

1881/George Grout/Licensed Victualler/37/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Eliza J. Grout/Wife/38/Waltham, Essex/Census
1881/Percy E. Grout/Son/8/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Florence E. Grout/Daughter/6/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Beatrice C. Grout/Daughter/4/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Mary E. Grout/Daughter/2/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Harriet Enever/Sister, Assistant Fancy Repository (FGT)/40/Waltham, Essex/Census
1881/Caroline Enever/Sister, Barmaid/39/Waltham, Essex/Census

1882/George Grout/Beer Retailer/../../Kelly's

Note: Prior to 1885, premises only named in 1881

1885/George Grout/../../../Kelly's*

1886/Mrs. Eliza Jane Grout/../../../Kelly's

1894/Percy Grout/../../../Kelly's

1895/Percy Grout/../../../Kelly's

1898/Percy Grout/../../../Kelly's

1899/P. Grout/../../../Kelly's

1902/Percy Grout/../../../Kelly's

1908/Percy E. Grout/../../../Kelly's

1912/Percy Enever Grout/../../../Kelly's

1917/Mrs. Lilian May Miller/../../../Kelly's

Thomas John William Terry was the licensee at the "Green Man",  Halliday Walk (later Mildmay Street) in 1915-1917. He also had the "Carlton Tavern", which he took over in 1918. He was the licensee at "Foresters Arms" Loughton in 1918 (where his first wife Elsie died). Then he was the licensee at the "Gower Arms" Store Street in 1923, and the licensee in 1925 - 1926 at the Denbigh Arms, Denbigh Place, with his second wife Florence Ellen. When Thomas John William Terry died in 1930 (aged 41), the probate shows him at the "Beaumont Arms" Uxbridge Road. I am not sure whether his second wife Florence Ellen continued there.  He was my Grandmother Carnaby's Brother. **

1925/Fred Tolson/../../../Kelly's

1933/Alfred W. Helliar/../../../Kelly's


* Provided by the Pubs, Inns and Taverns Index for England, 1801-1900

** Provided By John Carnaby

*** Provided by Margaret Wood

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