Clarence, Trinity Street, Colchester

From around 1776 to 1832, the pub was known as the Joiner's Arms, perhaps a reference to the type of tradesmen that lived in the general area at that time. Previous to that it is believed to have been known as the Cock but, although the tavern appears in the alehouse recognisances by this name from 1764 until 1775, it would probably have dated from well before this period. ***  This is now called the Purple Dog.

Colchester pub history index

Clarence, Trinity Street, Colchester circa 1920

c 1920

Kindly provided by Jess Jephcott

Clarence, Trinity Street, Colchester 1999

1999

Residents at this address

1848/Jeremiah Hamblion/../../../White's

1851/John Sach/innkeeper/54/Layer Marney, Essex/Census **
1851/Maria Sach/wife/37/Kelvedon, Essex/Census
1851/Laura Sach/daughter/01/Colchester, Essex/Census
1851/Mary Ann Folks/servant/14/Abberton, Essex/Census
1851/Eliza Bacon/lodger/wife of labourer/38/Stebbing, Essex/Census

1855/J. Sach/../../../Kelly's*

1862/Mrs. Emma Minter/../../../Kelly's

1867/William Siggers/../../../Post Office

1870/William Siggers Sen./../../../Kelly's

1871/William Siggers Sen./../../../Post Office

1871/William Siggers/Licensed Victualler/66/Cornard, Suffolk/Census
1871/Sarah Siggers/Wife/60/Milden, Suffolk/Census
1871/Jane Cutcher/Niece/9/Plaistow Marsh, Essex/Census
1871/Harry N Tricker/Lodger, Cab driver/21/Groton, Suffolk/Census
1871/Richard Schofield/Lodger, Cab driver/20/Great Horkesley, Essex/Census

1874/William Siggers Sen./../../../Kelly's

1878/Mrs. Sarah Siggers/../../../Kelly's

1881/Charles Frost/Licensed Victualler/26/Halstead, Essex/Census
1881/Ruth Frost/Wife/27/Hastings, Sussex/Census
1881/Charles F. Frost/Son/3/Colchester, Essex/Census
1881/Alice Maud Frost/Daughter/10m/Colchester, Essex/Census
1881/William Thomas Frost/Brother, Barber/19/Colchester, Essex/Census

1882/Charles Frost Jun./../../../Kelly's

1886/Charles Frost Jun./../../../Kelly's

1894/Charles Frost Jun./../../../Kelly's

1895/Charles Frost Jun./../../../Kelly's

1898/George Martin/../../../Kelly's

1899/George Martin/../../../Kelly's

1901/George Goodman/Inn Proprietor/60/Odell, Beds/Census
1901/Charlotte Goodman/Wife/56/Odell, Beds/Census
1901/Mabel Goodman/Daughter/21/Odell, Beds/Census
1901/Charles Goodman/Son, Groom/19/Odell, Beds/Census
1901/Dorothy May Riddle/Grandchild/8/Northampton/Census

1902/George Goodman/../../../Kelly's

Joiners Arms, Colchester – Two for the price of one!

This story all starts with the birth of the first of 14 children of my Great Grandfather Henry John Dadds and a barmaid called Mary Ann Thompson in 1907. The registration of their son gave an address as Joiners Arms, East Hill, Colchester and the investigation began.
Most of the Essex work on this site was produced by Ian Hunter and getting in to the Colchester records I found an entry for Joiners Arms, Trinity Street and East Hill. Quickly out with the map I noticed a problem, East Hill and Trinity Street seemed to be a distance from each other. Not to be outdone I shot to another excellent Colchester site www.camulos.com  and found that in Trinity Street the Joiners Arms building still existed, in fact there was a picture of it but it is now called The Purple Dog and was also The Clarence in an earlier life. Also, this established that my Joiners Arms couldn’t be this one unless the birth registration was wrong.
I then found The Clarence landlords in the early twentieth century were the Goodman’s and a picture also confirmed this was the former Joiners Arms in Trinity Street building, yet the landlord of the Joiners Arms in that period was a Vaughan. So did we have two Joiners Arms for the price of one here?
The answer was yes, thanks to confirmation from Camulos Webmaster Sdapeze, as Mary Ann’s Joiners Arms was at 93 East Street at the bottom of East Hill whilst the earlier Joiners Arms was in Trinity Street and was then The Clarence and is now The Purple Dog.
Many thanks to  and Jess for their help in my search. ***

1906/George Goodman/../../../Kelly's

1908/Charles Edward Goodman/../../../Kelly's

1912/Charles Edward Goodman/../../../Kelly's

1914/Charles Edward Goodman/../../../Kelly's

1917/Charles Edward Goodman/../../../Kelly's

1925/Charles Edward Goodman/../../../Kelly's

1933/Mrs. Edith Goodman/../../../Kelly's

1937/Alfred Jas Pink/../../../Kelly's

In 1939, there is a Charles W Ollivant listed as a hotel manager with his wife Iris L Ollivant (nee Vaughan), and living at 21 St Johns green. He is born in 1897, she in 1909. They married in 1937.

1941 - 1959/C W Ollivant/The Clarence, Trinity street - Colchester 4550/../../BT Telephone directory

By 1963, there is a C W Ollivant at the Rose Inn, Peldon


* Provided by the Pubs, Inns and Taverns Index for England, 1801-1900

** Provided by John Mead

*** Information kindly provided by Jess Jephcott at http://www.camulos.com

 

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